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Post by khogan on Aug 7, 2014 12:23:50 GMT -5
Any leads on location yet? We could look at busker fest as they seem to have them all over the place throughout the summer.
Location and Sponsors need to be figured out first, then the other rules could be made based on what we have to work with. Is K&H going to supply all/some of the product if we get a location together? If the works are free we could use the entry fee to go towards insurance and other costs if we can't find any more sponsors.
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Post by Pyro Boss on Aug 8, 2014 14:49:41 GMT -5
Any leads on location yet? We could look at busker fest as they seem to have them all over the place throughout the summer. Location and Sponsors need to be figured out first, then the other rules could be made based on what we have to work with. Is K&H going to supply all/some of the product if we get a location together? If the works are free we could use the entry fee to go towards insurance and other costs if we can't find any more sponsors. I am working on a location that has a festival and also waiting for info on a sponsor. Details soon hopefully. I am going to list what product will be used, how many teams, e-match or talons, duration of shows etc. Something for you guys though, what do you think about a four team show? 2 shows Friday, two shows Saturday? Or all shows on a Saturday night? Each show 10 to 15 minutes. The shows will be judged by people's choice? Thanks
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Post by khogan on Aug 8, 2014 15:09:14 GMT -5
I think peoples choice would be a good idea, that way if K&H does sponsor then Lumadue can still participate without worrying about conflict of interest.
2 nights seems like a good idea. 40-60 mins of fireworks in one night is too much IMO, crowd will be getting bored by the end. On the other hand, depending on the location though it may be an issue for some to travel 2 days and they may need to stay in a hotel to be there both days.
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Post by dbrodz on Aug 8, 2014 18:40:33 GMT -5
How would the whole team aspect work? Would it be that there are only four openings? Or you can only register as a team?
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Post by Pyro Boss on Aug 10, 2014 12:08:33 GMT -5
How would the whole team aspect work? Would it be that there are only four openings? Or you can only register as a team? I don't now, what do you guys think how we should set up the teams? I think we can do 2 shows each day.
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Post by Pyro Boss on Aug 10, 2014 13:02:52 GMT -5
So far I have this for some ideas.
We have four teams. Each team will have product from four different companies which I have contacted to be sponsers.
Vulcan Mystical Hands BEM
Still trying to find a contact for the Powerhouse line of consumer fireworks, any of the members now an email for them?
Edit: I have contacted Victory fireworks for the Powerhouse line.
Comments, suggestions?
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Post by Lumadue on Aug 10, 2014 19:22:38 GMT -5
Well pyro boss, alongside victory. I carry powerhouse as well. Along with all the other brands. Including Royal which you did not include.
I'm somewhat against using specific brands to compete, as it would be a one-time deal. That idea you wouldn't be able to carry along annually, as most companies only bring in 2-5 new items a year. Which will not add much variety. Along with that, some companies won't carry as much product, BEM has the least amount of product to choose from, mystical being the most.
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Post by Pyro Boss on Aug 11, 2014 9:10:31 GMT -5
I'm somewhat against using specific brands to compete, as it would be a one-time deal. . Not sure I understand using specific brands to compete? What brands would you use then?. If we can get sponsers to give us fireworks rather then shelling out the money ourselves wouldn't that be what everybody would want. If we get lucky for the companies to give us the product we then distribute all the different kinds (Companies) to each team.
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Post by Lumadue on Aug 11, 2014 10:19:29 GMT -5
Oh, I miss read it then. I thought you were saying that the teams would be competing only using specific brands. example being, Team one - Only BEM Team Two - Only Powerhouse ETC.
Are we asking the distributors to be the sponsors then? As opposed to finding a corporate company or community donate the money?
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Post by Pyro Boss on Aug 11, 2014 10:48:50 GMT -5
Yes, thats my plan then we advertise there brand at the event. Then going to be asking other companies to be sponsers for the event, insurance etc.
I wonder if we can get certain companies to be there selling product as well, like K&H, Victory, Phatboy etc.
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Post by Lumadue on Aug 11, 2014 11:03:14 GMT -5
What do you mean by selling products? As in I have a catalogue and trade booth to take orders for the next holiday event? Or actually bring in stock to purchase?
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Post by Pyro Boss on Aug 11, 2014 11:56:08 GMT -5
What do you mean by selling products? As in I have a catalogue and trade booth to take orders for the next holiday event? Or actually bring in stock to purchase? I don't know if its possible but to have suppliers there selling the product to the public that we will be firing. Do you know if this is possible Lumadue?
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Post by Lumadue on Aug 11, 2014 12:43:54 GMT -5
Depends on the bylaws of the location, generally most are 3-5 days leading up to a holiday. Unless the council makes an amendment for just that event. This is something you would have to bring up to their meetings. I'm sure they would specify for the public not to fire at the event as due to the amount of people present. Or because the event would be on the weekend, they might not even pursue that idea.
If they do make that amendment, then it would simply applying for a permit and the supplier should have insurance, which you need for a permit anyways. And they would have to follow all the usual regulations. Example being, no tent, general public can't handle until purchase, and shelved properly.
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Post by Pyro Boss on Aug 12, 2014 8:11:39 GMT -5
I am in contact with an event organisor that does a festival near Barrie. Its an all weekend long event with a 1.3 show Saturday night at 10:00pm.
Before really jumping into this, do you guys think we will have enough people to put teams together? We would need to advertise this as much as we can so the first event would be a success!.
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Post by Pyro Boss on Aug 13, 2014 6:50:02 GMT -5
I did here back from some major firework sponsers! Details coming soon.
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Post by markhampyro on Aug 13, 2014 7:28:46 GMT -5
I am in contact with an event organisor that does a festival near Barrie. Its an all weekend long event with a 1.3 show Saturday night at 10:00pm. Before really jumping into this, do you guys think we will have enough people to put teams together? We would need to advertise this as much as we can so the first event would be a success!. I would participate pyro boss (i.e. One team of four or even even less depending on what you guys decide constitutes a team). But I still think a 10 min show is way too long for a small budget of $500 (assuming that's what you guys are deciding on).
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Post by khogan on Aug 13, 2014 7:51:36 GMT -5
I am in for sure. Either working alone, as a team leader, or just on someones team I don't care as long as I get to light off some fireworks. I think the size of the teams would depend on how much product we have and how long we have to setup. If we have all day to setup we could probably work alone and help each other out if needed, but if we only have a few hrs to setup we will need more people.
The location, date and cost to use needs to be solidified before some people may commit to attending. I said I am in for sure but really if I have to put up all the money for the fireworks I am not so sure anymore. Lumadue also brought up certification. If it's required this could cause some people that want to participate to not be able to.
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Post by Pyro Boss on Aug 13, 2014 8:05:30 GMT -5
I am in the planning stage with Sponsers so that we won't pay at all for the product! Hoping with fingers crossed lol.
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Post by dbrodz on Aug 13, 2014 9:43:45 GMT -5
Maybe each team doesn't have to be confined to using only one brand. But each team got an even selection. In return to the sponsors they would be getting free exposure to what consumer pyro can "really" do. We could record videos of the pyrotechnic displays and return it to them as free advertising material? What do you think?
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Post by Pyro Boss on Aug 13, 2014 9:50:34 GMT -5
Hey dbrodz,
I am not planning on having teams confined to one product, I want them to have a mixer of each company sponsering, like you said, get an even selection.
I am also thinking for you to video the event if possible? How about audio equipment for announcements etc?
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Post by dbrodz on Aug 19, 2014 10:26:17 GMT -5
Video the event? Sure. As for audio equipment. I have everything we would need. And if the event is larger than anticipated- rentals are a breeze and fairly cheap too.
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Post by Pyro Boss on Aug 19, 2014 13:22:03 GMT -5
Video the event? Sure. As for audio equipment. I have everything we would need. And if the event is larger than anticipated- rentals are a breeze and fairly cheap too. Awesome dbrodz! I got some very good news guys for fireworks company sponsers, I will keep you posted soon!.
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Post by s1l3noz on Sept 6, 2014 2:19:00 GMT -5
There was an event like that in Lac St-Jean (Quebec) 2 or 3 years ago called "Festival Feux D'Artifices Amateur" (Amateur Fireworks Festival). It was on 3 days and they had 15 teams of 2 competing for the top 3. They had a budget of 500$ to 2000$ Maximum per team for 4-7 mins approx. Professionals were there to supervise and for the final day "Big Show". Don't know if it's still running but from what I can find on Google, it only lasted for 1 year or 2.
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Post by Pyro Boss on Sept 11, 2014 18:08:09 GMT -5
Well, so far I had only one large fireworks company willing to give fireworks, banners, etc for a competition. Another large company responded back which seemed very interested in what we are planning to do but not contact me back yet.
So we will still wait a little longer to see if they are interested.
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Post by dbrodz on Sept 13, 2014 13:43:06 GMT -5
When would we be planning this event for? Next year, mid summer?
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Post by Pyro Boss on Sept 14, 2014 19:42:44 GMT -5
It will hopefully be next year May, June or July.
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Post by dbrodz on Apr 29, 2015 19:45:10 GMT -5
So whats the news on this then?
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Post by papapyro on May 2, 2015 5:59:49 GMT -5
I realize that this is an old thread, but is this still a possibility? if i can inject an idea, each individual or team could find their own sponsor to help of set the cost as well as provide advertising and visibility for the sponsor.
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Post by dbrodz on May 2, 2015 9:42:01 GMT -5
I like Papapyro's idea... Although I think we might be making this too big? It's like we're planning a professional Tournament when we haven't even gotten together once yet. I think this should start smaller than that and emerge as Canadian Pyro started, just a bunch of hobbyists with a knack for pyro. Maybe it could be a competition one day, but for know I think it should start a bit smaller. What do you guys think?
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Post by inthesewoods on May 2, 2015 10:01:06 GMT -5
^ I agree!
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