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Post by londonfan on Mar 14, 2020 13:07:59 GMT -5
Grisom's recent post about Royal Pyrotecnie going green brought up a question I have had for a while.
How, or where do you guys dispose of your burnt pieces?
Are they considered recyclable?
Do you think they can go to the curb with municipal recycling, (or trash) or do they have to go to a collection site?
I'm looking for facts and opinions to maybe reach out to the city about.
Ok, that was more than 1 question.
It's the Covid! It's making me hoard questions!
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Post by Grisom on Mar 14, 2020 13:54:38 GMT -5
Personally We usually check them first , soak them in water to make sure there is No possibility of anything igniting . Then bag them for the garbage pickup .
They would not be considered for paper recycling because of the residue on them and the clay that they add to the cakes which would contaminate the other paper / cardboard.
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Post by pyrot on Mar 15, 2020 14:27:14 GMT -5
So, on the recycling thought. I save spent cakes - both 1.3g and 1.4g, and then use them as roman candle racks - holders They work awesome for this purpose. Once they are too far wrecked, then I/we just dispose of them at regular landfill. As Grisom mentioned, they won't take them at recycling as they are contaminated with residue, clay, wires , etc etc.
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Post by londonfan on Mar 16, 2020 5:34:23 GMT -5
Thanks, that's what I figured.
For years I have used the dumpster at work. It's free and the boss loves watching my fireworks.
It just seem like a lot of cardboard going out.
Funny. They can turn a tree into nice white paper, but they complain about contaminated paper products for recycling.
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Post by rosafi on Mar 16, 2020 9:38:09 GMT -5
Years ago while shooting fireworks overseas, the company I would work for would have a guy cut the cakes above the clay base - they would then sell the top part of the cardboard tube to a recycler. (and garbage the clay base). I repeat he would SELL it. As in someone must see the value in recycling this product otherwise they wouldn't pay.
I always think about this when I hear that in Canada the cakes are not recyclable due to the residue. Locally some people won't even take the cardboard box the fireworks come in because they think they are contaminated.
So I wonder what the truth actually is on this.
Is it just that we are so far behind in our recycling capabilities?
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Post by bigtop on Mar 16, 2020 11:58:24 GMT -5
I know a guy who used to handle the incoming recycling at the Pine Falls Paper mill (now closed). His answer was the clay would be a problem but the mostly carbon and sulfide residue on the inside of the paper tubes would not. The problem to solve would be a quick and easy way to remove the clay. I don't doubt that fireworks tubes without clay are refused at some recycling facilities. This is probably because of a lack of knowledge rather than a technical problem recycling the tubes.
I agree with Rosafi about fireworks paper being recycled in other countries. In the early 2000s after a demo in China people would pick up scrap paper from the shoot site to recycle. At that time the factory wage in China was less then $100 a month. So low labor cost made it possible.
China until 2018 bought recyclable materials from around the world. It was cheap to ship in the otherwise empty containers heading back to China. I am fairly certain the reason the Chinese stopped buying recyclable materials is the rising wages in China made it too expensive to sort the material. So we in North America never really recycled much of the material. Obviously it is now time that we have to figure out ways to recycle.
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