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Post by tone303 on Oct 4, 2015 8:29:57 GMT -5
I am interested to know what people think makes a good finale. Obviously, I'm looking to save the biggest effects for the finale, but when working with multiple cakes, do you think it's better to have multiple cakes with similar effects, or a variety of effects together? What about fanned versus straight-shot; is it best to combine them or stick to one? And, is there anything in particular to avoid when doing the finale?
Any general advice is welcomed.
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Post by inthesewoods on Oct 6, 2015 15:00:20 GMT -5
In my experience, I always overthink the finale and plan it out for days but when it's actually happening spectators are most impressed with a solid sky puke. Break density and pops per second are what make a great finale, in my opinion.
I like having a couple fan cakes or angled tubes in there to fill the sky and add some interest.
I save the bigger and more expensive (or unique) cakes for the main show and some of the smaller cakes for the finale (I like using multiples of the same cake). End big with some large mortars or a cake with some solid height. I'll usually finish using multiple crackle cakes and a couple golden rain willow tubes. They really hang in the sky nicely.
Also nice to pepper in some different sound effects like saturn missiles or howl at the moon.
Really no wrong way to do it, I think!
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Post by Lumadue on Oct 7, 2015 6:03:23 GMT -5
Depends on what you want to see, we try a huge variety of effects to try and get something different.
For Canada day, mostly have a multicolour barrage of shells, then volleys of red and white to finish it off. Or vice versa.
For weddings, try and use their wedding colours to end with.
Just for fun, ending with all gold effects that hang longer. Like a willow or Kamaro.
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Post by markhampyro on Oct 8, 2015 14:56:47 GMT -5
No wrong answer. Just blow up a lot.....A LOT. ;-)
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Post by thorswolf on May 15, 2016 15:49:50 GMT -5
Agreed that a lot is good, but I personally also like variety in altitude and type.
Firing from three stations, here are some of my faves for finales:
One Jumbo Warhead Launcher and two Brocade Crown as my background. They are along lasting and loud.
Snake Bite for sound and added bursts.
Show Stopper because it has both comets with tails and nice bursts (usually from the side firing stations)
A bunch of Golden Eye and Silver Palms for the bigger bursts they provide near the end of the finale.
I pretty much use the always and add one or two more pieces for the Ooh and aah" effect.
Crazy cyclone always gets a reaction, so do Silver Monster and Do or Die.
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Post by londonfan on Feb 24, 2018 7:32:35 GMT -5
Below is my finale list from Canada Day 2017. I use the RC-150 wireless remote to set off my finale so that I can be back with my family instead of under the show. I set one off every 15 seconds which doesn't do a lot of choreography but it fills the sky with bang, flash, and sparkle which seems to be what everyone loves.
FINALE:
JACK OF CLUBS
MENACE
VOLATILE
HELL BREAKS LOOSE
TORNADO
DOUBLE TROUBLE
HELL'S GATE
ENVY
CDC-9797
ACT OF VALOUR
CDC-9898
VENDETTA
This year I am planning more fanned cakes and adding a second Hell's Gate for both light and sound.
This set-up takes well over 2 minutes to go off and stuns the neighbourhood kids into a state of hero worship for a few days.
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Post by Aussie on Mar 1, 2018 8:36:56 GMT -5
I’m not a fan of “puking” the sky at the end
A sponsor will be more impressed to see structure in their finale instead of a fire all
I like to start with a single position with 2 identical cakes
If space allows, three identical products in three positions and if space is on your side go 5 tighter positions, followed by 5 fans of product, if consumer we like the tarantula in a \|/ style in 5 positions, ematched
It gives a great finish and it shows you’ve put effort into the show instead of putting your arm in the pyro shelf and just draging everything into your shopping basket
2 cents
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Post by peterboropyroguy on May 30, 2018 13:54:09 GMT -5
I am interested to know what people think makes a good finale. Obviously, I'm looking to save the biggest effects for the finale, but when working with multiple cakes, do you think it's better to have multiple cakes with similar effects, or a variety of effects together? What about fanned versus straight-shot; is it best to combine them or stick to one? And, is there anything in particular to avoid when doing the finale? Any general advice is welcomed. Myself when i do a show i do it around my finale, For me The Finale is where i start building my show and then i work the rest of my show around it, I normally budget 25-30% for it, |
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Post by huggyd on May 30, 2018 20:07:18 GMT -5
Personal sky puking may work ok for weddings or Bar and Bat Mitzvah where its secondary to the actual event. People seem to like the big 'fill the sky' finale and then move one with their night toss in there some good effects that hang longer time like Lumadue said and people seem happy. When people are hanging around for a 'fireworks show' sky puking is more of a wast of product then putting on a show.
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Post by rcoach1974 on May 30, 2018 23:58:10 GMT -5
this year for our finale we are going with 2 Glittering Brocades 2 007 2 act of valour 2 Terminator 2 T2 4 Gladiator and I believe 2 D2's overkill.......probably......but a whole lot of bang  |
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Post by fireworks4u on Jun 2, 2018 2:27:01 GMT -5
i personally put around 10 cakes in my finale pretty much a sky puke to give the wow factor never had a complaint yet
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Post by Aussie on Jun 2, 2018 5:57:02 GMT -5
You sky puke......with style
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Post by fireworks4u on Jun 2, 2018 6:13:14 GMT -5
You sky puke......with style me? or someone else |
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Post by Aussie on Jun 2, 2018 6:52:31 GMT -5
You, it was a compliment
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Post by londonfan on Jun 2, 2018 7:51:18 GMT -5
Back in Feb.I posted a list of last years finale. This is this years Canada Day Finale.
FINALE
THE MIGHTY
LOCK DOWN
VOLATILE
HELL BREAKS LOOSE
FANATIC
THE STRONG
ENVY
HELL BREAKS LOOSE
THE GIANT
SNAPSHOT
ACT OF VALOUR
VENDETTA
I simply fire off one every 15 seconds, with the exception of 10 seconds between firing The Mighty and Lock Down.
Yep Aussie is right, it is a bit of a (planned) puke, but the 15 familys and their friends that I entertain (at my cost and pleasure) love it more each year. Last year we had around 100 people sitting on our driveways and this year sounds like it will be more.
I am very lucky to have a large area in the centre of our 15 homes to do this in, and have started getting people from around the neighbourhood coming to watch as they realize that my fireworks will continue beyond 2 cakes.
I always start with roman candles and then some smaller child friendly cakes to warm the crowd(and toddlers) as everything grows to around 3 minutes of puke. It takes me about 25 minutes to mostly hand ignite and the puke (remote fired) is loved by all at the end.
The only complaint ever was from someone from another street complaining that I was terrorizing her dog.
I understand and appreciate Aussie's design ideas and obvious skill, but I vote sky puke.
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Post by huggyd on Jun 2, 2018 11:40:53 GMT -5
To me Sky Puke is more of a, I have a bunch of cakes fuse them together lite them off really don't know or care what they do or look like just put them up there and that is the end of the show everyone go home.
"sky puke, with style" - aussie Again my feeling is there is more planing / thought involved where cakes and or single shoots and or barrages can be fused up but are known what each one does and one has an idea what the sky should look like there is more timing involved, and more time setting up.
A backyard player who walks into a store and just buys 2 of this and 3 of that then sets them all off "sky puke"
Is this wrong?
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Post by markhampyro on Jun 2, 2018 12:38:11 GMT -5
To me Sky Puke is more of a, I have a bunch of cakes fuse them together lite them off really don't know or care what they do or look like just put them up there and that is the end of the show everyone go home. "sky puke, with style" - aussie Again my feeling is there is more planing / thought involved where cakes and or single shoots and or barrages can be fused up but are known what each one does and one has an idea what the sky should look like there is more timing involved, and more time setting up. A backyard player who walks into a store and just buys 2 of this and 3 of that then sets them all off "sky puke" Is this wrong? I agree. |
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Post by Aussie on Jun 2, 2018 17:10:53 GMT -5
Everybody has their flavor of finale, either Sky puke, controlled comets runs, multiple of the same cakes. Each to their own as budget, time and design and experience all come into play
When I say “sky puke with style” my goal was not to insult. It was to aprrove that that person likes to put up lots at once, good on him.
Again each to their own, sometimes it’s nice to see a random finale after so much design and effort, in other shows, sometimes you see 2 or 3 random cakes go up at a friends place and it inspires different ideas down the road
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Post by fireworks4u on Jun 3, 2018 1:17:53 GMT -5
well thank you sir...... there is thought that goes into my finales it isn't just 10 random cakes and see whats happens...... its pretty thought out |
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Post by londonfan on Jun 3, 2018 6:45:45 GMT -5
Well replied Aussie.
Sorry I wasn't trying to get you verbally beat up, I was sort of feeling good about my planned sky puke ("with style" to be determined) and sort of bragging about it.
Aussie, you have done a wonderful job of complimenting someones efforts while maintaining your stance with style and grace.
I do like Huggyd"s description of Sky Puke. Zero planning; just money tossed into the air.
So now we have 3 styles of finales to vote/discuss
Sky Puke
Sky Puke With Style
The Aussie Effect
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Post by Aussie on Jun 4, 2018 17:52:56 GMT -5
Lol all good
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Post by fireworks4u on Jun 17, 2018 21:02:59 GMT -5
sky puke with style
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Post by pyrot on Jun 28, 2018 12:05:53 GMT -5
I always try to put thought into my finales, but "skypuke" at the same time. I will start with 2-3 similar cakes , then half way through then start a rack of mortars chosen carefully for color variety. If product is available, I then like to move on to a fan rack of 5 barrages once the cakes are done, but mortars still going.If barrages aren't available , I will use a bunch of roman candles in a fan . I will usually start a rack of air bombs as well. once that is almost all done , I will light my big finish which will consist of 5 mortars in a fan usually 3 of one type and 2 of another , along with 3-5 comets in a fan, and a huge fan of 15 airbombs, all fused to burst at once. I must say , I do miss the thunderflash 1000's.
My definition of sky-puke is completely filling the whole sky, bottom to top, left to right, with fireworks.
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Post by pyrot on Jun 28, 2018 12:25:28 GMT -5
In the picture below, just to the left of the fire extinguisher, there are 3 racks right together. that is my very final shot. the "pre-finally is mostly out of sight , but consisted of the surf's up cake and the rack of mortars, and barrages, etc just to the left of it . I guess I should add, that I do have one big advantage over others. Even though this is all 1.4g product , it was still a 1.3g permitted show , as I am a display supervisor, and did use quickmatch to fuse it all. That is what makes my fan racks all possible.  |
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Post by dbrodz on Jul 16, 2018 7:41:38 GMT -5
At almost every show I've fired I still get at least person every time who says something along the lines of "We should just launch all of them off at one!" or "What would you do if I pushed the button and launched them all at once!" I suppose the common man thinks this would be a real spectacle. While it is a sheer affront of power in the sky, in my opinion, unless it's a salute, fireworks are pointless if you cannot see them clearly. So I agree, I'm not one for the "Sky-Puke." I think a finale should both contrast from and unify the whole show while leading the audience through a kind of visual narrative that ends in a fantastic array of some sort. I wouldn't say you necessarily have to save the "biggest" for last but definitely the "Best" or most different for last; or at least constantly strive to change things up. There should still be enough firepower at the end that the audience can tell it was a definitive end. While also satisfying the more "blow it all off at once" types, but in saying that, it should be a tasteful use of power that strives to be different from other finales we've seen.
I'm no expert, but that's my two cents worth anyway lol.
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