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Post by londonfan on Jul 5, 2023 6:42:40 GMT -5
This year we noticed that the fusing on the Multicolor Peony had changed from a top lighting point to a side lighting point. I also noticed that the top of the tube was capped with a thin clear plastic.
When I fired them off I didn't think that they were as impressive as in previous years. They still were big and high, but were quieter and seemed like less. When I compared annual videos, break seems almost half the size as in previous videos. They were the only firework that left this impression, so I don't think it's an atmospheric thing. Everything else was higher, bigger, louder, and brighter. We had a great night for fireworks in London on Canada Day. Cleaning up the mess, the almost tennis ball sized casings were also broken apart differently from the past, and not thrown as far.
Did any one else notice this change in this firework? Although I love the bigger break from the past, I get it if it was changed for safety and to meet regulations. I have wondered from the first time I fired one how they were possibly consumer legal. I still love it though and it's a great piece for the money.
P.S. I'm never sure that a low on the side lighting point is safer than a top lighting point. It's just a feeling I get, hand lighting most of my items. (also, they tell you to bury it half way in the ground, but then the fuse would be underground?)
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Post by bigtop on Jul 5, 2023 13:32:45 GMT -5
I have never shot a competition Multicolor Peony but from your description the most likely scenario is the past importation of the product was not compliant with the authorization and had flash powder as the burst composition. This would be a result of an error at the factory. Many other countries including most of Europe allow flash powder bursts in their consumer fireworks you could see how this might happen.
As a fireworks enthusiast I am sure you have heard salutes which are 100% flash powder. Flash powder has a distinctly different sound because of the high speed of burning it gets just above the speed of sound. Even very large shells that are not burst with flash powder do not have this sound. A feature that is even more identifiable is if the sound of flash powder burning bounces off a metal building. I have heard this distinct ricochet of sound at fireworks shows that were near large metal arena buildings. Even a canadian banger has this sound even though they are limited to 800 mg of flash powder.
It is a good thing that Canada does not allow flash powder as bursts in consumer shells as the much higher burning speed propels stars at a much higher speed and so has a much greater likelihood of causing injury.
If you want to play with flash powder get training so you can do it safely.
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Post by fieromatt on Jul 5, 2023 18:15:40 GMT -5
I have never shot a competition Multicolor Peony but from your description the most likely scenario is the past importation of the product was not compliant with the authorization and had flash powder as the burst composition. This would be a result of an error at the factory. Many other countries including most of Europe allow flash powder bursts in their consumer fireworks you could see how this might happen. As a fireworks enthusiast I am sure you have heard salutes which are 100% flash powder. Flash powder has a distinctly different sound because of the high speed of burning it gets just above the speed of sound. Even very large shells that are not burst with flash powder do not have this sound. A feature that is even more identifiable is if the sound of flash powder burning bounces off a metal building. I have heard this distinct ricochet of sound at fireworks shows that were near large metal arena buildings. Even a canadian banger has this sound even though they are limited to 800 mg of flash powder. It is a good thing that Canada does not allow flash powder as bursts in consumer shells as the much higher burning speed propels stars at a much higher speed and so has a much greater likelihood of causing injury. If you want to play with flash powder get training so you can do it safely. Not related to the peony but I’m not sure how these things are regulated. I fired a few of the BEM blinking waterfalls (have fired a good dozen in my time) and this latest batch, I can tell you that they were VERY much over packed. No way in hell they were max load consumer.
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Post by londonfan on Jul 5, 2023 19:44:12 GMT -5
I have never shot a competition Multicolor Peony but from your description the most likely scenario is the past importation of the product was not compliant with the authorization and had flash powder as the burst composition. This would be a result of an error at the factory. Many other countries including most of Europe allow flash powder bursts in their consumer fireworks you could see how this might happen. As a fireworks enthusiast I am sure you have heard salutes which are 100% flash powder. Flash powder has a distinctly different sound because of the high speed of burning it gets just above the speed of sound. Even very large shells that are not burst with flash powder do not have this sound. A feature that is even more identifiable is if the sound of flash powder burning bounces off a metal building. I have heard this distinct ricochet of sound at fireworks shows that were near large metal arena buildings. Even a canadian banger has this sound even though they are limited to 800 mg of flash powder. It is a good thing that Canada does not allow flash powder as bursts in consumer shells as the much higher burning speed propels stars at a much higher speed and so has a much greater likelihood of causing injury. If you want to play with flash powder get training so you can do it safely. Thanks for this valuable input. I completely agree with the change if it was for safety (probably was). The Flash powder in the burst makes lots of sense. That would definitely make the difference that I experienced. The stars in previous years almost touched the ground, or looked like it. That's part of how I wondered how they could be consumer legal. I'm lucky enough to have a large space, and I couldn't imagine setting those up in the average back yard. This is the kind of passing of knowledge and sage advice that I joined this forum for years ago. Thanks again
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Post by bigtop on Jul 5, 2023 21:25:13 GMT -5
"Not related to the peony but I’m not sure how these things are regulated. I fired a few of the BEM blinking waterfalls (have fired a good dozen in my time) and this latest batch, I can tell you that they were VERY much over packed. No way in hell they were max load consumer."
The 7 Shot Cakes do allow a larger load per tube than the cakes 8 to 100 shots. I had always looked at the Criteria for the Authorization of Consumer and Display Fireworks and wondered why no one has pursued the loads allowed in 7 shot cakes. It was not for me because my business was display fireworks. Bem did and then Mystical did so now we have some really good multishot items with decent loads. I did shoot a lot of BEM's 7 shot cakes and my impression were that they were of a certain really good burst charge that is a bit slower than flash powder in a really well constructed load. The sound of flash powder has a higher pitch and a harder crack (that is the best way I can describe it) than the bursts I have heard from BEM 7 shot cakes. The difference comes down to the higher burning speed of flash powder.
If you are interested how fireworks are regulated the Criteria for the Authorization of Consumer and Display Fireworks is available on the ERD website.
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